Debra Ross spent 25 years building KidsOutAndAbout.com the old-school way – then AI turned her into a coder. We talk about her AI-powered business pivot, scaling from 52 to 160 regions, and raising kids who use AI without letting AI use them.
LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
KidsOutAndAbout.com | Your local guide to everything for kids, teens, and families
BeyondTheNest.com | Your local guide to America’s arts, culture and recreation
The Eclipse Effect – Debra Ross & Jamie Carter
How Students Can Use AI to Learn to Write (Without Giving Away their Brains)
Main Street Event AI Summit – Practical AI for Real Businesses
Sacrificial Garden | Larry’s new Glass Animal album SUNO project
PODCAST INFO:
Podcast Website:
UpAgainstReality.com
Episode link:
https://upagainstreality.com/2026/09/01/debra-ross/
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